2 Trick Pony
2x monthly personal stories about how career pivots, side projects, and hobbies build a more resilient and confident self. Co-hosted by wife duo Dr. Claire Ma and Dr. Melissa Betters.
2x monthly personal stories about how career pivots, side projects, and hobbies build a more resilient and confident self. Co-hosted by wife duo Dr. Claire Ma and Dr. Melissa Betters.
Episodes
Friday Oct 31, 2025
Ep5: How Drag Builds Joy with Tammy Kay Queen
Friday Oct 31, 2025
Friday Oct 31, 2025
In this week’s episode, we get a look behind the showroom curtain in our interview with Tommy Zoppa, better known as the drag queen Tammy Kay Queen. In our interview, we hear about how Tommy took a break from working in international aid and tech to create the popular and hilarious "Monologues" drag show at the Trade Bar in DC.
Friday Oct 17, 2025
Ep4: How Pottery Builds Creativity with Jenny Nam
Friday Oct 17, 2025
Friday Oct 17, 2025
This week, we interview Jenny Nam, a data analyst and hobbyist potter in Philadelphia, about her basement home studio and her mother’s 10-year rule when trying out new things.
Resources mentioned in the episode:
The Clay Studio, Philadelphia, PA
Small Favors show at the Clay Studio, Philadelphia
The Ceramic Shop, Norristown, Philadelphia
Bird Seed Florals, Philadelphia
You can learn more about our guest at:
https://www.sjnampottery.com
@sjnampottery (Instagram)
Friday Oct 03, 2025
Ep3: How Gardening Can Heal with Sharad Wertheimer
Friday Oct 03, 2025
Friday Oct 03, 2025
This week, we continue learning about gardens and major career pivots with Sharad Wertheimer, a former labor organizer and current medical student in Washington, D.C. In our conversation, Sharad talks about discovering his passion for urban agriculture…and how 10,000 worms helped him find his purpose.
Friday Sep 19, 2025
Ep2: How Horticulture Built Confidence with Honor Hawkins
Friday Sep 19, 2025
Friday Sep 19, 2025
In this episode, we talk with Honor Hawkins, a landscape designer and horticulturalist in New York City, about her serendipitous career pivot from media and technical writing to professionally designing urban gardens.
Friday Sep 05, 2025
Ep1: How Baking Builds Community with Dr. Claudia Ma
Friday Sep 05, 2025
Friday Sep 05, 2025
In our first conversation, we interview family physician Dr. Claudia Ma about Claudia’s Confections, her new licensed home baking venture in Boston, MA, and how she cares for others through medicine and baking.
Thursday Sep 04, 2025
Trailer: Welcome to 2 Trick Pony
Thursday Sep 04, 2025
Thursday Sep 04, 2025
Welcome to 2 Trick Pony! In this premiere episode, co-hosts Claire Ma and Melissa Betters introduce the 2 Trick Pony podcast and explain the motivations behind the show.







