{"store":{"customizeEditHighlightKey":null,"customizeEditingSectionKey":null,"customizeScrollToKey":null,"baseInfo":{"podcastTitle":"2 Trick Pony","slug":"the2trickponypodcast","podcastDescription":"

2x monthly personal stories about how career pivots, side projects, and hobbies build a more resilient and confident self. Co-hosted by wife duo Dr. Claire Ma and Dr. Melissa Betters.

","podcastLogo":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/21220334/2TP_logo_1400.jpg","podcastShareLogo":"https://d2bwo9zemjwxh5.cloudfront.net/image-logo/21220334/2TP_logo_1400_1200x628.jpg?s=6b7279babea15abf16131eeab7f33c56&e=jpg","podcastUrl":"https://the2trickponypodcast.podbean.com","podcastCanSearched":true,"feedUrl":"https://feed.podbean.com/the2trickponypodcast/feed.xml","theme":"playlist2","podcastDeepLink":"https://www.podbean.com/pw/pbblog-8rbxu-143cbee?from=usersite","removePodbeanBranding":"no","brandingLogo":null,"timeZone":{"timeZoneId":15,"gmtAdjustment":"GMT-05:00","useDaylightTime":1,"value":-5,"text":"(GMT-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)","daylightStartTime":"Second Sunday Of March +2 Hours","daylightEndTime":"First Sunday Of November +2 Hours","timezone":"America/New_York"},"podcastDownloads":null,"totalEpisodes":18,"showComments":true,"iOSAppDownloadLink":null,"customizeCssUrl":null,"androidAppDownloadLink":null,"showPostShare":true,"showLike":true,"author":"2 Trick Pony","enableEngagementStats":true,"shareEmbedLink":"https://admin5.podbean.com/embed.html?id=pbblog-8rbxu-143cbee-playlist","language":"en","sensitivitySessionExpireTime":3600,"podcastApps":[{"name":"Apple Podcasts","link":"https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2trickpony/id1837677266","image":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/fs1/site/images/admin5/apple-podcast.png","title":null},{"name":"YouTube","link":"https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrhEEAGvUJMRbRQHIK_A_plMyaLLmO35e","image":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/fs1/site/images/admin5/youtube_logo.png","title":null},{"name":"Podbean App","link":"https://www.podbean.com/pw/pbblog-8rbxu-143cbee?from=usersite","image":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/fs1/site/images/admin5/podbean-app.png","title":null},{"name":"Spotify","link":"https://open.spotify.com/show/756KPiV3IiuompxEb0WhhR","image":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/fs1/site/images/admin5/spotify.png","title":null},{"name":"Amazon Music","link":"https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/e26e3dd8-484d-477f-81c2-0abb8a6e6e5f/2-trick-pony","image":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/fs1/site/images/admin5/AmazonMusic.png","title":null},{"name":"iHeartRadio","link":"https://iheart.com/podcast/292270261","image":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/fs1/site/images/admin5/iHeartRadio.png","title":null},{"name":"PlayerFM","link":"https://player.fm/series/3687945","image":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/fs1/site/images/admin5/PlayerFM.png","title":null},{"name":"Podchaser","link":"https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/2-trick-pony-6203384","image":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/fs1/site/images/admin5/Podchaser.webp","title":null}],"components":{"base":[{"id":"MainStyle","val":"light"},{"id":"Font","val":"Lato"},{"id":"SecondaryFont","val":"Lato"},{"id":"PlayerColor","val":"#9417FF"},{"id":"PlayerStyle","val":"player2"},{"id":"PlayerWave","val":"show"},{"id":"Favicon","val":null},{"id":"CookiesNotice","val":"hide"},{"id":"CookiesNoticeContent","val":"

Cookies Notice

This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. By using our website you agree to our use of cookies.

"},{"id":"EpisodePageListenOn","val":"hide"},{"id":"EpisodePageCustomizeComponent","val":"hide"}],"home-header":[{"id":"HomeHeaderTextColor","val":"#ffffff"},{"id":"BackgroundImage","val":"https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/4szktrnm8e2chknp/logo_sitebanner10.png"},{"id":"BackgroundImageForMobile","val":null}],"page-header":[{"id":"PageHeaderTextColor","val":"#FFFFFF"},{"id":"SecondaryPageBackgroundImage","val":"https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/w5r6icnwuhjv8prb/2TP_logo_1400.jpg"},{"id":"SecondaryPageBackgroundImageForMobile","val":"https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/w5r6icnwuhjv8prb/2TP_logo_1400.jpg"}],"episode-list":[{"id":"EpisodesPerPage","val":10},{"id":"EpisodeStats","val":"show"}],"navigation":[{"id":"NavigationFontColor","val":"#ffffff"},{"id":"NavigationBackgroundColor","val":"#000000"},{"id":"NavigationSearch","val":"show"},{"id":"NavigationLinks","val":[{"id":"Home","type":"Link","value":"/","text":"Home","subitems":[]},{"id":"Subscribe","type":"Link","value":"https://www.podbean.com/site/podcatcher/index/blog/d5LzoYSzpuob","text":"Subscribe","subitems":[]},{"id":"Profile","type":"Link","value":"https://www.podbean.com/user-Rod1mlT3jC2m","text":"Profile","subitems":[]}]}],"footer":[{"id":"FooterType","val":"Footer1"},{"id":"FooterFontColor","val":"#ffffff"},{"id":"FooterBackgroundColor","val":"#000000"},{"id":"FooterCopyright","val":"Copyright 2025 All rights reserved."},{"id":"SocialMediaLinks","val":{"facebook_username":"","twitter_username":"","instagram_username":"","youtube_username":"","linkedin_username":""}}],"customize-container1":[],"customize-container2":[],"customize-container":[{"id":"EpisodeListType","val":"simple-list"}]},"allLinks":[],"mainStylesDefaultSettings":null,"defaultCustomizeComponents":null,"scripts":[],"metas":null,"appConfig":{"package":"com.podbean.app.podcast","app_store_id":973361050,"app_name":"Podbean","scheme":"podbean"},"customizeCss":null,"canEditCss":null,"enableJsCodeInCustomizeContent":false,"enabledIframeCodeInCustomizeContent":true,"sectionMaxCount":10,"enableEditorLink":true,"enableEditCookiesNotice":true,"siteRedirectToFeed":false,"podcatcherRssUrl":null,"showFeed":true,"showTopBar":false,"enableWebSiteLike":true,"organizationName":null,"organizationPageLink":null,"subscribeLink":"https://www.podbean.com/site/podcatcher/index/blog/d5LzoYSzpuob","isPrivateChannel":false},"backToListUrl":"/","tinymceLoaded":false,"listEpisodes":[],"userLikedEpisodes":[],"userLikeCheckedEpisodes":[],"topBarIframeLoaded":false,"listTotalCount":0,"listTotalPage":0,"listPage":0,"listType":"all","listValue":"","listName":"","pageLoading":false,"apiBaseUrl":"https://the2trickponypodcast.podbean.com","apiV2BaseUrl":"","apiCommonParams":{"t":"6a5f5433","clientSignature":"39dbd70dd626768e6ccb04fc15de005c","u":null,"customizing":null},"apiCommonHeaders":{},"comments":[],"commentsTotalCount":0,"commentsTotalPage":0,"commentsPage":1,"commentEpisodeId":"pb26464299-k5mrx","episode":{"id":"pb26464299","idTag":"k5mrx","title":"Trailer: Welcome to 2 Trick Pony","logo":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/21220334/2TP_logo_1400_300x300.jpg","shareLogo":"https://d2bwo9zemjwxh5.cloudfront.net/image-logo/21220334/2TP_logo_1400_1200x628.jpg?s=6b7279babea15abf16131eeab7f33c56&e=jpg","largeLogo":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/21220334/2TP_logo_1400.jpg","previewContent":null,"content":"

Welcome to 2 Trick Pony! In this premiere episode, co-hosts Claire Ma and Melissa Betters introduce the 2 Trick Pony podcast and explain the motivations behind the show.

","publishTimestamp":1756976400,"duration":202,"mediaUrl":"https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/zhvzr6mbzqq4z7vq/2TP-Pilot-FOR_RELEASE-mono.mp3","mediaType":"audio/mpeg","shareLink":"https://admin5.podbean.com/embed.html?id=pb-k5mrx-193d02b","likedCount":0,"deepLink":"https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-k5mrx-193d02b","transcriptUrl":null,"permalink":"/e/trailer/","downloadLink":"https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-k5mrx-193d02b?download=1","fallbackResource":null,"fallbackResourceMimetype":null,"downloadCount":80,"status":"publish","hasMoreContent":false,"chaptersUrl":null,"explicit":false},"episodeShareLink":null,"deepLink":"https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-k5mrx-193d02b","playlist":{"episodes":[],"current":0,"start":0,"stop":0,"playing":true,"playerLoading":true,"playbackRate":1,"playbackRateIndex":1,"volume":1},"toasts":[],"confirm":null,"customizeEditorFormZIndex":999,"lastRequestTime":null,"validateChangesOnBeforeunload":true,"windowWidth":1000,"previewDevice":"desktop","VITE_FS1_CDN_URL_PREFIX":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/fs1","reloadStats":false,"userIdEncrypted":null,"userProfilePicture":null,"username":null,"isVerified":false,"loadUserInfo":false,"loginUrl":"https://www.podbean.com/site/user/login?return=https%253A%252F%252Fthe2trickponypodcast.podbean.com%252Fe%252Ftrailer%252F&rts=0812b4c56b3605af5db67c98b01d3028fe4d2e5f","recaptchaV3Loaded":false,"recaptchaV2Loaded":false,"likesLoaded":false,"commentLikeMap":{},"commentOffset":0,"widgetCommentsLoaded":false},"episode":{"id":"pb26464299","idTag":"k5mrx","title":"Trailer: Welcome to 2 Trick Pony","logo":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/21220334/2TP_logo_1400_300x300.jpg","shareLogo":"https://d2bwo9zemjwxh5.cloudfront.net/image-logo/21220334/2TP_logo_1400_1200x628.jpg?s=6b7279babea15abf16131eeab7f33c56&e=jpg","largeLogo":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/21220334/2TP_logo_1400.jpg","previewContent":null,"content":"

Welcome to 2 Trick Pony! In this premiere episode, co-hosts Claire Ma and Melissa Betters introduce the 2 Trick Pony podcast and explain the motivations behind the show.