2 Trick Pony
2x monthly personal stories about how career pivots, side projects, and hobbies build a more resilient and confident self. Co-hosted by wife duo Dr. Claire Ma and Dr. Melissa Betters.
2x monthly personal stories about how career pivots, side projects, and hobbies build a more resilient and confident self. Co-hosted by wife duo Dr. Claire Ma and Dr. Melissa Betters.
Episodes
Friday Jan 30, 2026
Ep11: How Weightlifting Builds Courage with Dr. Kristin Harlow
Friday Jan 30, 2026
Friday Jan 30, 2026
In this conversation, we speak with Dr. Kristin Harlow, a former academic and policy evaluator-turned-weightlifting trainer. We learn from Kristin about her lifelong love for athletics and how she’s building a community for women in strength-training, as well as how she mustered up the courage to leap out of academic research and start her own garage gym.
Friday Jan 16, 2026
Ep10: How Letting Go Leads to Authenticity with April Lee
Friday Jan 16, 2026
Friday Jan 16, 2026
In this episode, we have a wide-ranging conversation about a personal search for meaning. A former government employee, April Lee speaks with us about how she left her job to explore creative crafts, reconnect with herself, and gain the confidence to build her own data visualization consultancy.
Friday Jan 02, 2026
Ep9: How Building Instruments Pushes Boundaries with John C.L. Jansen
Friday Jan 02, 2026
Friday Jan 02, 2026
New Year’s is a great time to consider a new hobby! We start the year off with professional musician, composer, and instrument maker John C.L. Jansen. We hear about the craft of building unusual instruments like daxophones and custom guitars, and how Jansen incorporates his built instruments into his music compositions. Jansen is also a classical guitarist and university music educator based in Washington, D.C.
Friday Dec 12, 2025
Ep8: How the Culinary Arts Build Resilience with Masid Cader
Friday Dec 12, 2025
Friday Dec 12, 2025
This week’s interview is for those who prefer to go big or go home. We talk with hobbyist chef Masid Cader about his experience fast-tracking his interest in gourmet cooking, including training with a Michelin-starred restaurant during the weekends, all while working full-time in investment banking.
Friday Nov 28, 2025
Ep7: How Food Writing Builds Belonging with PAKISTAN author Maryam Jillani
Friday Nov 28, 2025
Friday Nov 28, 2025
Just in time for Thanksgiving, we interview Maryam Jillani about her journey as a food journalist and her experience writing the groundbreaking cookbook PAKISTAN. In our conversation, we learn about how Maryam’s background in public policy, education, and international development gave her a unique perspective on food writing while bringing her cookbook project to life.
Friday Nov 14, 2025
Ep6: How Birding Brings Perspective with Nova Hanson
Friday Nov 14, 2025
Friday Nov 14, 2025
This week, we talk with marine biologist and medical technician Nova Hanson about her love for birding and photography, and how she keeps her hobby fun and meaningful.
Friday Oct 31, 2025
Ep5: How Drag Builds Joy with Tammy Kay Queen
Friday Oct 31, 2025
Friday Oct 31, 2025
In this week’s episode, we get a look behind the showroom curtain in our interview with Tommy Zoppa, better known as the drag queen Tammy Kay Queen. In our interview, we hear about how Tommy took a break from working in international aid and tech to create the popular and hilarious "Monologues" drag show at the Trade Bar in DC.
Friday Oct 17, 2025
Ep4: How Pottery Builds Creativity with Jenny Nam
Friday Oct 17, 2025
Friday Oct 17, 2025
This week, we interview Jenny Nam, a data analyst and hobbyist potter in Philadelphia, about her basement home studio and her mother’s 10-year rule when trying out new things.
Resources mentioned in the episode:
The Clay Studio, Philadelphia, PA
Small Favors show at the Clay Studio, Philadelphia
The Ceramic Shop, Norristown, Philadelphia
Bird Seed Florals, Philadelphia
You can learn more about our guest at:
https://www.sjnampottery.com
@sjnampottery (Instagram)
Friday Oct 03, 2025
Ep3: How Gardening Can Heal with Sharad Wertheimer
Friday Oct 03, 2025
Friday Oct 03, 2025
This week, we continue learning about gardens and major career pivots with Sharad Wertheimer, a former labor organizer and current medical student in Washington, D.C. In our conversation, Sharad talks about discovering his passion for urban agriculture…and how 10,000 worms helped him find his purpose.
Friday Sep 19, 2025
Ep2: How Horticulture Built Confidence with Honor Hawkins
Friday Sep 19, 2025
Friday Sep 19, 2025
In this episode, we talk with Honor Hawkins, a landscape designer and horticulturalist in New York City, about her serendipitous career pivot from media and technical writing to professionally designing urban gardens.







